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Är du en säljare för denna fond eller har du nån typ av koppling till den? Lite väl häftigt att registrera sig samma dag som man kommer på att skriva om sina goda investeringar man gjort?!

Har du några fler bra investeringsplaner om man som jag, tror att vi kommer att hamna i en global ekonomisk kollaps inom kort?

Är guld en bra investering? Fonder är ju trots allt bara papper, precis som vilka pengar som helst?

Posted on: 2007/10/2 18:09
"They who can give up essential liberty to obtain a little temporary safety, deserve neither liberty nor safety."

/Benjamin Franklin
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Det krävs väl knappast någon enorm slutledningsförmåga för att förstå att det här är någon form av bluff/bedrägeri?

Frejgatan 13 är en postbox-adress och googlar man på "forexfonden" hittar man nästan bara forum-spam.

Posted on: 2007/10/2 19:12
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Valutahandel är för dom stora grabbarna. MEn sedan några år kan du även som privat person syssla med Valutahandel.

http://www.saxobank.com/campaign/?id=1621&Calllang=SV


http://www.gcitrading.com/cfd-spreads.htm

Gci Trading har övningsprogram Online i realtid. Kan vara något att testa i Vinter. Men det är jäkligt lätt att förlora stora pengar på det här , men du kan också vinna stora pengar beroende på hur mycket du kan " spela " med.




Här är lite mer info om Valutahandel.

http://www.valutahandel.nu/

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det finns en fond som bara följer med på uppgångarna men jag minns inte vad den heter, fråga på banken så vet dom.

Annars finns det Xact fonderna Bear och Bull, den ena går upp när börsen sjunker och den andra upp när börsen stiger, och tvärt om.

om du tex köper Bear så stiger fonden 1.5% för varge prosent börsen sjukner och tvärt om, dvs den sjunker 1.5% för varge prosent börsen stiger.
Bull fungerar tvärtom.

Båda utgår från hur det går med OMXS30.

mer info finns här: http://www.xact.se/Hem.htm

Posted on: 2007/10/2 19:34
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Mini skrev:
det finns en fond som bara följer med på uppgångarna men jag minns inte vad den heter, fråga på banken så vet dom.

Hm.. vad menar du? Det där lät ganska fel.
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Annars finns det Xact fonderna Bear och Bull, den ena går upp när börsen sjunker och den andra upp när börsen stiger, och tvärt om.

om du tex köper Bear så stiger fonden 1.5% för varge prosent börsen sjukner och tvärt om, dvs den sjunker 1.5% för varge prosent börsen stiger.
Bull fungerar tvärtom.

Båda utgår från hur det går med OMXS30.

mer info finns här: http://www.xact.se/Hem.htm

Ligger du tungt investerad i Xact Bear med tanke på din marknadssyn?
Jag äger själv lite Bear som hedge till mina aktieinnehav.

Posted on: 2007/10/2 20:10
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det finns en fond som bara följer med på uppgångarna men jag minns inte vad den heter, fråga på banken så vet dom.

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Hm.. vad menar du? Det där lät ganska fel.


Det var nån fond dom berättade om när jag var på banker för ungiför ett halvår sedan nu. Den följde med på börsens uppgångar men inte på nedgångarna. Du får ringa banken och fråga. Har för mig jag har mitt pansionssparande i den.

Hehe just nu har jag inga pengar i Bear men har tängt lägga minna "fondpengar" där nu snart.. :P

Posted on: 2007/10/2 20:18
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Mini skrev:
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det finns en fond som bara följer med på uppgångarna men jag minns inte vad den heter, fråga på banken så vet dom.

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Hm.. vad menar du? Det där lät ganska fel.


Det var nån fond dom berättade om när jag var på banker för ungiför ett halvår sedan nu. Den följde med på börsens uppgångar men inte på nedgångarna. Du får ringa banken och fråga. Har för mig jag har mitt pansionssparande i den.

Hehe just nu har jag inga pengar i Bear men har tängt lägga minna "fondpengar" där nu snart.. :P

Ah jag förstår du menar kapitalskyddade produkter t.ex. aktieindexobligationer där du är garanterad att alltid få tillbaks det satsade kapitalet, eller 90 % av det eller dylikt. Dock får man betala det med mindre vinst om det går upp.

Posted on: 2007/10/2 20:30
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Det har du säkert rätt i!

Det blir ju ganska lönsamt på lång sikt med en sån iaf.
Och skulle börsen rasa så förlorar man inte allt.

Posted on: 2007/10/2 20:57
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Mini skrev:
Det har du säkert rätt i!

Det blir ju ganska lönsamt på lång sikt med en sån iaf.
Och skulle börsen rasa så förlorar man inte allt.

Jag tycker personligen att de flesta av dessa produkter är djävulens avföda, då de i allmänhet tar ut oskäligt höga marginaler ofta genom extremt svårgenomträngliga konstruktioner.

Posted on: 2007/10/2 21:01
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Jo det har du ju säkert rätt i... men bankerna tar ju gärna lite extra betalt så fort dom får en skans...

Men är ju ganska smidigt att anvädna en sån så slipper man bry sig eller oroa sig att pengarna ska försvinna.. Men jag flyttar dom kanske om några år och lägger dom någon annanstans, om äns pengar finns då.. hehe

den som lever får se..

Posted on: 2007/10/3 0:42
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Går det inte att spärra mot denna typ av rena SPAM-inlägg? Håll VAKEN rent från auto-genererade reklaminlägg TACK!

Posted on: 2007/10/3 0:55
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Here Comes the Next Big Screw Over
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The New York Times is reporting that Robert Rubin is likely to be named as the interim Chairman of Citigroup.

Rubin, of course, has long been associated with Citigroup and its subsidiaries. Shortly after leaving his post as Bill Clinton's Treasury Secretary, he brokered a deal on behalf of Citigroup that resulted in an en masse abandonment of regulations that had protected the financial services industry and its customers for decades. For his trouble, he was rewarded with a seat on the board and the title of "Chairman of the Executive Committee."

The former Secretary is a close economic advisor to Nancy Pelosi. She even brought him to Washington after the 2006 elections to lecture the incoming Freshman class on how things were done inside the Beltway, as far as economic policy was concerned.

We couldn't have Freshman Dems getting any populist ideas into their heads.

He also heads the so-called Hamilton Project, a group of influential bankers, economists and lobbyists whose job is to make sure that Democrats don't deviate from right-wing "free market" policies where Wall St. is concerned.

So what does this mean for Citigroup?

My interpretation:

Citigroup has decided that it's time to seek a political, rather than financial solution to problems resulting from the collapse of the housing bubble, the sub-prime mortgage meltdown and the global credit crunch.

Rubin's appointment is a sign that Citigroup knows it can't keep going without the help of the American taxpayer.

(And neither can the other big Wall St. institutions.)

So -- open up your wallets, folks!

I know that times are hard. Wages are stagnating and falling. Health care and insurance costs are going through the roof. You can't afford to pay your mortgage. You can't afford college tuition for your kids without taking on tens of thousands of dollars in loans. Your 401(k) account is empty. You can't save up anything to retire.

Doesn't matter.

Open up your wallets, because your about to bail out Citigroup.


Någon som känner igen tricket.....var har jag sett detta tidigare?

Posted on: 2007/11/6 16:12
Ju flera kockar ju mindre till gästerna..
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Folk som har pengar på banken kommer definitivt bli blåsta, ungefär som tyskarna under depressionen. (Vilket var konstgjort, naturligvis)


The central bank is an institution of the most deadly hostility existing against the Principles and form of our Constitution. I am an Enemy to all banks discounting bills or notes for anything but Coin. If the American People allow private banks to control the issuance of their currency, first by inflation and then by deflation, the banks and corporations that will grow up around them will deprive the People of all their Property until their Children will wake up homeless on the continent their Fathers conquered.

--Thomas Jefferson.

Notera ordet deflation, det betyder om du har skulder så betalar du mer och inte mindre på räntorna. Visst är de clever? Folk är som en skock idioter som står helt hypnotiserade framför en skurk som har ett riggat lotteri hjul och de lär sig aldrig utan blir blåsta alla gånger.

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Å pengarna bara försvinner.....

IndyMac Reports $202.7 Million Loss on Late Payments
By David Mildenberg

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Nov. 6 (Bloomberg) -- IndyMac Bancorp Inc., the second- largest independent U.S. mortgage lender, reported a loss five times bigger than the company forecast in September as foreclosures and late payments rose to a record.

IndyMac cut its dividend in half, eliminated more than 1,500 jobs and increased reserves for bad loans by 47 percent to help weather the worst housing slump in 16 years. The loss of $202.7 million, or $2.77 a share, compares with the 50-cents-a-share forecast the Pasadena, California-based company made on Sept. 7.

IndyMac, down 72 percent this year, fell an additional 4 percent in early New York trading after the company reported its first loss in more than eight years. The number of Americans who may lose their homes to foreclosure reached a record in the second quarter as late payments by borrowers with the worst credit histories surged to one out of every seven loans.

....We are in the midst of the most severe downturn our industry has experienced in modern times,'' IndyMac Chief Executive Officer Michael Perry said in a statement. ....While this loss is substantially higher than we had been forecasting, it was clearly not unexpected given the magnitude of the losses being reported by others in our industry.''

Perry said the company will reduce the dividend further if IndyMac is unprofitable during the fourth quarter. The third- quarter loss compares with a gain of $86.2 million, or $1.19 a share, a year earlier.

Shares Fall

IndyMac fell 51 cents to $12.26 in early trading. The stock's decline this year compares with a 54 percent drop for Bloomberg's index of 31 mortgage real estate trusts and a 65 percent slide for Countrywide Financial Corp., the biggest U.S. mortgage company.

Countrywide, based in Calabasas, California, reported a $1.2 billion loss on Oct. 26 that was its first in 25 years.

Citigroup Inc., the biggest U.S. bank, said this week that additional losses on mortgages and related securities will be as high as $11 billion, and Merrill Lynch & Co., the biggest U.S. brokerage, took an $8.4 billion writedown last month linked to the home-loan market. Both companies are based in New York.

IndyMac was the largest ....Alt-A'' home lender in the U.S. in 2006, according to data from trade publication Inside Mortgage Finance. The loans are an alternative for A-rated borrowers who fall short of standards for regular prime mortgages. The risk of default is lower than for subprime loans, which are made to people with the worst credit records.

Alt-A loans made between 2005 and 2007 are likely to produce some of the industry's highest losses in percentage terms, IndyMac said in a regulatory filing today.

Underestimated Severity

....In hindsight we could have pulled back sooner,'' the company said in the filing. ....But scale is critical for success. We were following major financial institutions and like most thought the downturn would not be this severe.''

Because the Alt-A market has virtually collapsed, IndyMac now makes loans that can be resold to government-sponsored enterprises including Freddie Mac and Fannie Mae.

....There is a gaping hole blown into the company's production franchise by the turmoil in the mortgage market, which in our view leaves IndyMac with a challenging earnings picture,'' analyst Manuel Ramirez of KBW Inc. said in a Sept. 10 report.

IndyMac last reported a loss in the fourth quarter of 1998 during a global liquidity crisis.

Posted on: 2007/11/6 16:27
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: thanks: Collins-Wood of America
Date: Nov 6, 2007 1:22 PM


From: Jet

Eddie
Date: Nov 6, 2007 10:10 AM


Can somebody confirm this rumor please? It has been circulating on 'rumor' websites and I wonder if this is true?

The link to the original report is inactive, probably flooded and clogged the site, or it is being taken down.

http://www.worldreports.org/news/91_entire_citibank_boar


************************************************************
Wanta Update: Provost Marshal Arrests Citibank Board?

Military Enters the Wanta Scandal, Possible Arrest of President, V.P.
Is Hillary's Run for President in Danger?

Bush and Cheney to be arrested? Paulson? Hillary out of the race? Citibank to collapse after mass arrests of bankers? Provost Marshal will sieze Citibank?

The events described in Christopher Story's latest Wanta scandal update are so mind-blowing I don't know what to say. Everything exploded yesterday (Nov. 5, 07) as a result of the Provost Marshal General, Brigadier General Rodney L. Johnson, having entered the picture to force the payment of the Wanta settlement. You may want to reference the last update about that through this link:

Story's report reveals what is really going on in the Citibank crisis. Another significant related item is that Hillary Clinton may (eventually) be OUT of the race for president due to the possibility of her arrest, along with her husband; this could be good news for Ron Paul supporters, assuming he can ever win the nomination.

There is so much in this blockbuster update I can't even attempt a summary; it needs to be read in full. The full story is here:




http://www.worldreports.org/news/91_entire_citibank_boar

Posted on: 2007/11/6 20:42
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Al-CIAda skrev:
Folk är som en skock idioter som står helt hypnotiserade framför en skurk som har ett riggat lotteri hjul och de lär sig aldrig utan blir blåsta alla gånger.


den var inte dålig den, haha, skillnaden som ja ser det, är att den lotterikillen är inne på gröna lund, med oss alla, och att det finn sfler riggade hjul att dra en lott i än bara den om banksystemet, jag har inte sett en enda del av samhället som inte är riggat, därför kan man skrota skiten. Vi behöver inget samhälle.

Posted on: 2007/11/6 21:04
Kreti och pleti är en i vardagligt bruk föraktlig beteckning för allehanda löst folk, den breda allmänheten, vem som helst, eller som det står i Nordisk Familjebok: ”personer utan börd, bildning eller samhällsställning.”
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Varje gång något ens säger ordet "samhället" (vilket är en term som syftar till att hypnotisera folk med något som inte har någon konkret innebörd) så snackar de skit.


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Al-CIAda skrev:
Varje gång något ens säger ordet "samhället" (vilket är en term som syftar till att hypnotisera folk med något som inte har någon konkret innebörd) så snackar de skit.



ja rätt av dig, vi kallar skiten "systemet"

Posted on: 2007/11/7 17:47
Kreti och pleti är en i vardagligt bruk föraktlig beteckning för allehanda löst folk, den breda allmänheten, vem som helst, eller som det står i Nordisk Familjebok: ”personer utan börd, bildning eller samhällsställning.”
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Samhällen i "systemet" är små fängelseceller i ett globalt koncentrationsläger.

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Intressant:

Dollar Falls to Record on China's Plans to Diversify Reserves

By Min Zeng and Agnes Lovasz
Enlarge Image/Details

Nov. 7 (Bloomberg) -- The dollar fell to a record low versus the euro
and the weakest since 1981 against the pound after Chinese officials
signaled plans to diversify the nation's $1.43 trillion of foreign
exchange reserves.

The U.S. dollar also declined to the weakest versus the Canadian dollar
since the end of a fixed exchange rate in 1950 and a 23-year low against
the Australian dollar on surging oil and gold prices as investors hedged
against the U.S. currency's weakness. The New York Board of Trade's
dollar index dropped to 75.077, the lowest since the gauge started in
March 1973.

``The dollar is suffering a confidence crisis,'' said Michael Woolfolk,
senior currency strategist at the Bank of New York Mellon in New York,
the world's largest custodian bank with over $20 trillion in assets
under administration. ``The dollar is on the ropes. Comments from China
about diversification and surging oil prices pushed the dollar to new
lows.''

The U.S. currency fell 0.8 percent to $1.4677 per euro at 10:22 a.m. in
New York and touched $1.4731, the lowest since the 13-nation currency
debuted in January 1999. The dollar weakened 1.3 percent, the most since
Sept. 7, to 113.24 yen. The yen rose 0.5 percent against the euro to
166.20 as declines in U.S. and European stocks pushed investors to cut
higher-yielding investments funded by loans in Japan.

The dollar will weaken to $1.54 per euro by the end of June, according
to Woolfolk.

The dollar also fell to an all-time low against the synthetic euro, a
theoretical value that estimates where the currency would have traded
before its inception. The prior record was $1.4557 set in 1992. The
dollar touched 1.1258 versus the Swiss franc, the weakest since 1995.
The Chinese yuan rose to the highest since a dollar link was scrapped in
July 2005.

`Losing Its Status'

The dollar is ``losing its status as the world currency,'' Xu Jian, a
central bank vice director, told a conference in Beijing. ``We will
favor stronger currencies over weaker ones, and will readjust
accordingly,'' Cheng Siwei, vice chairman of China's National People's
Congress, said at the same meeting.

Chinese investors have reduced their holdings of U.S. Treasuries by 5
percent to $400 billion in the five months to August. China Investment
Corp., which manages the nation's $200 billion sovereign wealth fund,
said last month it may get more of the nation's reserves to invest to
improve returns.

`Feeds Those Fears'

``The big issue on any currency is if its rate of depreciation is so
fast that it scares away all capital, and the announcement that we heard
from China sort of feeds those fears,'' said Larry Smith, who manages
$400 million as chief investment officer at Third Wave Global Investors.

International investors sold a record amount of U.S. securities in
August as soaring credit costs sparked an exodus from the stock market.
Total holdings of equities, notes and bonds fell a net $69.3 billion
after an increase of $19.5 billion in July, the Treasury Department said
in Washington on Oct. 16.

The euro's break of the synthetic high set in 1992 cleared a ``strong
resistance,'' which could allow the currency to rise at a faster pace
unless there are comments from European nations against its advance,
said Woolfolk.

``There are no real levels left,'' said Matthew Kassel, director of
proprietary trading at ING Financial Markets LLC in New York. ``Trying
to find one is a fools' game now. I guess psychologically $1.50 is the
only major level. But this last wave higher has been so fast that it's
hard to have any levels in mind.''

Oil, Gold

The dollar's decline helped drive the price of crude oil to a record
$98.62 a barrel and gold to a 27-year high, encouraging investors to buy
assets in commodity-producing nations.

The Canadian dollar advanced to as high as $1.1040. The Australian
dollar touched 93.98 U.S. cents, the highest since 1984, from 92.88 U.S.
cents yesterday. The rand rose to as high as 6.4294 per dollar, the
highest since May 2006, while Norway's krone touched the strongest since
1981.

The dollar's 10.1 percent drop against the euro this year boosted the
competitiveness of U.S. exports, helping shrink the nation's trade
deficit to $57.6 billion in August, the smallest since January.

``Further weakening of the dollar is very likely,'' said Teis Knuthsen,
the Copenhagen-based head of foreign-exchange, fixed-income and
derivative research at Danske Bank A/S, the Nordic region's
second-biggest lender. China may ``diversify out of dollar holdings.''

Treasuries, Yen

U.S. 10-year Treasury notes rose today as mounting credit- market losses
and declines in stocks pushed investors to the safety of government
debt. The yen gained against all 16 most- actively traded currencies.
The Standard & Poor's 500 Index lost 0.7 percent.

``The world's currency structure has changed,'' Xu said at the
conference in Beijing. Cheng, speaking to reporters after his speech,
said his comments don't mean China will buy more euros. The National
People's Congress, China's legislature, isn't involved in setting
currency policy.

The European Central Bank will keep its key rate at 4 percent tomorrow,
while the Bank of England may hold borrowing costs at 5.75 percent,
according to surveys from Bloomberg News. The Federal Reserve cut its
rate to 4.5 percent last week, the second reduction since September, and
interest-rate futures show 60 percent odds the central bank will cut
again in December.

The yield advantage of two-year German bunds over comparable-maturity
Treasuries increased to 0.27 percentage point, the widest since April
2004. A widening spread boosts the allure of European debt relative to
that in the U.S.

Europe's single currency will trade at $1.43 versus the dollar by
year-end, according to the median forecast of 42 analysts and brokerages
surveyed by Bloomberg News.

To contact the reporters on this story: Min Zeng in New York at
mzeng2@bloomberg.net ; Agnes Lovasz in London at alovasz@bloomberg.net .

Posted on: 2007/11/7 21:14
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DrKlot skrev:
Intressant:

Dollar Falls to Record on China's Plans to Diversify Reserves

By Min Zeng and Agnes Lovasz
Enlarge Image/Details

Nov. 7 (Bloomberg) -- The dollar fell to a record low versus the euro
and the weakest since 1981 against the pound after Chinese officials
signaled plans to diversify the nation's $1.43 trillion of foreign
exchange reserves.

The U.S. dollar also declined to the weakest versus the Canadian dollar
since the end of a fixed exchange rate in 1950 and a 23-year low against
the Australian dollar on surging oil and gold prices as investors hedged
against the U.S. currency's weakness. The New York Board of Trade's
dollar index dropped to 75.077, the lowest since the gauge started in
March 1973.

``The dollar is suffering a confidence crisis,'' said Michael Woolfolk,
senior currency strategist at the Bank of New York Mellon in New York,
the world's largest custodian bank with over $20 trillion in assets
under administration. ``The dollar is on the ropes. Comments from China
about diversification and surging oil prices pushed the dollar to new
lows.''

The U.S. currency fell 0.8 percent to $1.4677 per euro at 10:22 a.m. in
New York and touched $1.4731, the lowest since the 13-nation currency
debuted in January 1999. The dollar weakened 1.3 percent, the most since
Sept. 7, to 113.24 yen. The yen rose 0.5 percent against the euro to
166.20 as declines in U.S. and European stocks pushed investors to cut
higher-yielding investments funded by loans in Japan.

The dollar will weaken to $1.54 per euro by the end of June, according
to Woolfolk.

The dollar also fell to an all-time low against the synthetic euro, a
theoretical value that estimates where the currency would have traded
before its inception. The prior record was $1.4557 set in 1992. The
dollar touched 1.1258 versus the Swiss franc, the weakest since 1995.
The Chinese yuan rose to the highest since a dollar link was scrapped in
July 2005.

`Losing Its Status'

The dollar is ``losing its status as the world currency,'' Xu Jian, a
central bank vice director, told a conference in Beijing. ``We will
favor stronger currencies over weaker ones, and will readjust
accordingly,'' Cheng Siwei, vice chairman of China's National People's
Congress, said at the same meeting.

Chinese investors have reduced their holdings of U.S. Treasuries by 5
percent to $400 billion in the five months to August. China Investment
Corp., which manages the nation's $200 billion sovereign wealth fund,
said last month it may get more of the nation's reserves to invest to
improve returns.

`Feeds Those Fears'

``The big issue on any currency is if its rate of depreciation is so
fast that it scares away all capital, and the announcement that we heard
from China sort of feeds those fears,'' said Larry Smith, who manages
$400 million as chief investment officer at Third Wave Global Investors.

International investors sold a record amount of U.S. securities in
August as soaring credit costs sparked an exodus from the stock market.
Total holdings of equities, notes and bonds fell a net $69.3 billion
after an increase of $19.5 billion in July, the Treasury Department said
in Washington on Oct. 16.

The euro's break of the synthetic high set in 1992 cleared a ``strong
resistance,'' which could allow the currency to rise at a faster pace
unless there are comments from European nations against its advance,
said Woolfolk.

``There are no real levels left,'' said Matthew Kassel, director of
proprietary trading at ING Financial Markets LLC in New York. ``Trying
to find one is a fools' game now. I guess psychologically $1.50 is the
only major level. But this last wave higher has been so fast that it's
hard to have any levels in mind.''

Oil, Gold

The dollar's decline helped drive the price of crude oil to a record
$98.62 a barrel and gold to a 27-year high, encouraging investors to buy
assets in commodity-producing nations.

The Canadian dollar advanced to as high as $1.1040. The Australian
dollar touched 93.98 U.S. cents, the highest since 1984, from 92.88 U.S.
cents yesterday. The rand rose to as high as 6.4294 per dollar, the
highest since May 2006, while Norway's krone touched the strongest since
1981.

The dollar's 10.1 percent drop against the euro this year boosted the
competitiveness of U.S. exports, helping shrink the nation's trade
deficit to $57.6 billion in August, the smallest since January.

``Further weakening of the dollar is very likely,'' said Teis Knuthsen,
the Copenhagen-based head of foreign-exchange, fixed-income and
derivative research at Danske Bank A/S, the Nordic region's
second-biggest lender. China may ``diversify out of dollar holdings.''

Treasuries, Yen

U.S. 10-year Treasury notes rose today as mounting credit- market losses
and declines in stocks pushed investors to the safety of government
debt. The yen gained against all 16 most- actively traded currencies.
The Standard & Poor's 500 Index lost 0.7 percent.

``The world's currency structure has changed,'' Xu said at the
conference in Beijing. Cheng, speaking to reporters after his speech,
said his comments don't mean China will buy more euros. The National
People's Congress, China's legislature, isn't involved in setting
currency policy.

The European Central Bank will keep its key rate at 4 percent tomorrow,
while the Bank of England may hold borrowing costs at 5.75 percent,
according to surveys from Bloomberg News. The Federal Reserve cut its
rate to 4.5 percent last week, the second reduction since September, and
interest-rate futures show 60 percent odds the central bank will cut
again in December.

The yield advantage of two-year German bunds over comparable-maturity
Treasuries increased to 0.27 percentage point, the widest since April
2004. A widening spread boosts the allure of European debt relative to
that in the U.S.

Europe's single currency will trade at $1.43 versus the dollar by
year-end, according to the median forecast of 42 analysts and brokerages
surveyed by Bloomberg News.

To contact the reporters on this story: Min Zeng in New York at
mzeng2@bloomberg.net ; Agnes Lovasz in London at alovasz@bloomberg.net .


kinenserna har så mycket fordringar att kräva av Usa att dom kan tippa lasset själva, vilket dom givetvis vill. och har order om att göra, sen skall väl Usa bomba skiten ur dem? Eftersom dom hotar Usas ekonomi, enligt deras strike first doctrin kan dom ju göra det, eftersom Kina då hotar deras "intressen"

Posted on: 2007/11/7 21:18
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Dollar Falls to Record on China's Plans to Diversify Reserves

By Min Zeng and Agnes Lovasz
Enlarge Image/Details

Nov. 7 (Bloomberg) -- The dollar fell to a record low versus the euro
and the weakest since 1981 against the pound after Chinese officials
signaled plans to diversify the nation's $1.43 trillion of foreign
exchange reserves.

The U.S. dollar also declined to the weakest versus the Canadian dollar
since the end of a fixed exchange rate in 1950 and a 23-year low against
the Australian dollar on surging oil and gold prices as investors hedged
against the U.S. currency's weakness. The New York Board of Trade's
dollar index dropped to 75.077, the lowest since the gauge started in
March 1973.

``The dollar is suffering a confidence crisis,'' said Michael Woolfolk,
senior currency strategist at the Bank of New York Mellon in New York,
the world's largest custodian bank with over $20 trillion in assets
under administration. ``The dollar is on the ropes. Comments from China
about diversification and surging oil prices pushed the dollar to new
lows.''

The U.S. currency fell 0.8 percent to $1.4677 per euro at 10:22 a.m. in
New York and touched $1.4731, the lowest since the 13-nation currency
debuted in January 1999. The dollar weakened 1.3 percent, the most since
Sept. 7, to 113.24 yen. The yen rose 0.5 percent against the euro to
166.20 as declines in U.S. and European stocks pushed investors to cut
higher-yielding investments funded by loans in Japan.

The dollar will weaken to $1.54 per euro by the end of June, according
to Woolfolk.

The dollar also fell to an all-time low against the synthetic euro, a
theoretical value that estimates where the currency would have traded
before its inception. The prior record was $1.4557 set in 1992. The
dollar touched 1.1258 versus the Swiss franc, the weakest since 1995.
The Chinese yuan rose to the highest since a dollar link was scrapped in
July 2005.

`Losing Its Status'

The dollar is ``losing its status as the world currency,'' Xu Jian, a
central bank vice director, told a conference in Beijing. ``We will
favor stronger currencies over weaker ones, and will readjust
accordingly,'' Cheng Siwei, vice chairman of China's National People's
Congress, said at the same meeting.

Chinese investors have reduced their holdings of U.S. Treasuries by 5
percent to $400 billion in the five months to August. China Investment
Corp., which manages the nation's $200 billion sovereign wealth fund,
said last month it may get more of the nation's reserves to invest to
improve returns.

`Feeds Those Fears'

``The big issue on any currency is if its rate of depreciation is so
fast that it scares away all capital, and the announcement that we heard
from China sort of feeds those fears,'' said Larry Smith, who manages
$400 million as chief investment officer at Third Wave Global Investors.

International investors sold a record amount of U.S. securities in
August as soaring credit costs sparked an exodus from the stock market.
Total holdings of equities, notes and bonds fell a net $69.3 billion
after an increase of $19.5 billion in July, the Treasury Department said
in Washington on Oct. 16.

The euro's break of the synthetic high set in 1992 cleared a ``strong
resistance,'' which could allow the currency to rise at a faster pace
unless there are comments from European nations against its advance,
said Woolfolk.

``There are no real levels left,'' said Matthew Kassel, director of
proprietary trading at ING Financial Markets LLC in New York. ``Trying
to find one is a fools' game now. I guess psychologically $1.50 is the
only major level. But this last wave higher has been so fast that it's
hard to have any levels in mind.''

Oil, Gold

The dollar's decline helped drive the price of crude oil to a record
$98.62 a barrel and gold to a 27-year high, encouraging investors to buy
assets in commodity-producing nations.

The Canadian dollar advanced to as high as $1.1040. The Australian
dollar touched 93.98 U.S. cents, the highest since 1984, from 92.88 U.S.
cents yesterday. The rand rose to as high as 6.4294 per dollar, the
highest since May 2006, while Norway's krone touched the strongest since
1981.

The dollar's 10.1 percent drop against the euro this year boosted the
competitiveness of U.S. exports, helping shrink the nation's trade
deficit to $57.6 billion in August, the smallest since January.

``Further weakening of the dollar is very likely,'' said Teis Knuthsen,
the Copenhagen-based head of foreign-exchange, fixed-income and
derivative research at Danske Bank A/S, the Nordic region's
second-biggest lender. China may ``diversify out of dollar holdings.''

Treasuries, Yen

U.S. 10-year Treasury notes rose today as mounting credit- market losses
and declines in stocks pushed investors to the safety of government
debt. The yen gained against all 16 most- actively traded currencies.
The Standard & Poor's 500 Index lost 0.7 percent.

``The world's currency structure has changed,'' Xu said at the
conference in Beijing. Cheng, speaking to reporters after his speech,
said his comments don't mean China will buy more euros. The National
People's Congress, China's legislature, isn't involved in setting
currency policy.

The European Central Bank will keep its key rate at 4 percent tomorrow,
while the Bank of England may hold borrowing costs at 5.75 percent,
according to surveys from Bloomberg News. The Federal Reserve cut its
rate to 4.5 percent last week, the second reduction since September, and
interest-rate futures show 60 percent odds the central bank will cut
again in December.

The yield advantage of two-year German bunds over comparable-maturity
Treasuries increased to 0.27 percentage point, the widest since April
2004. A widening spread boosts the allure of European debt relative to
that in the U.S.

Europe's single currency will trade at $1.43 versus the dollar by
year-end, according to the median forecast of 42 analysts and brokerages
surveyed by Bloomberg News.

To contact the reporters on this story: Min Zeng in New York at
mzeng2@bloomberg.net ; Agnes Lovasz in London at alovasz@bloomberg.net .


kinenserna har så mycket fordringar att kräva av Usa att dom kan tippa lasset själva, vilket dom givetvis vill. och har order om att göra, sen skall väl Usa bomba skiten ur dem? Eftersom dom hotar Usas ekonomi, enligt deras strike first doctrin kan dom ju göra det, eftersom Kina då hotar deras "intressen"


Kan du utveckla det med fordringar.

Posted on: 2007/11/7 21:27
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Tips från augusti:

Valutakamp mellan Kina och USA

http://www.epochtimes.se/articles/2007/08/14/12941.html

Posted on: 2007/11/7 23:57
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