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NASA Cover-Ups Continue...
NASA Dismisses Former Apollo Photo and Data Manager http://www.sys-con.com/read/450055.htm Lunar Anomalies http://www.thelivingmoon.com/47john_l ... _Austin_Anomalies_01.html http://www.thelivingmoon.com/43ancien ... les/Moon_Images_Menu.html http://www.thelivingmoon.com/47john_lear/menu.html Shuttle Plume Shadow Points to Moon http://www.thelivingmoon.com/47john_l ... /Soul_Catcher_Shuttle.htm  http://www.thelivingmoon.com/47john_lear/index.html
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Det finns bara EN sanning
Så farlig är vägen, att man aldrig ser stupet, man faller sakta, stilla och lugnt – i djupaste trygghet – uppbyggd av strunt! Jag kom, jag såg, jag vände åter |
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novax skrev:
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Eisenhower’s 1954 Meeting With Extraterrestrials: The Fiftieth Anniversary of First Contact? http://www.thelivingmoon.com/47john_lear/01archives/Study-Paper-8
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Det finns bara EN sanning
Så farlig är vägen, att man aldrig ser stupet, man faller sakta, stilla och lugnt – i djupaste trygghet – uppbyggd av strunt! Jag kom, jag såg, jag vände åter |
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ARCHAEOLOGY NEWSFLASH 95
xxx, this news is from Jonathan Gray - www.beforeus.com You authorized this mailing when you requested your gift report on our web-site. See below for removal directions. "Just look what we've found!" shrieked Robert. Isn't this mind-blowing?" "On the seabed?" "Yes!... but they don't want to know it." "Why not?" "Because the implications are... shall I say... DANGEROUS!" HAVEN'T YOU HEARD??? Didn't you know? Hasn't anybody told you? It's about our planet's true age! Dangerous information." Oh, come on...what's threatening about that???? Well, if you really want to know... it mattered very much to two guys not far from here. Just last Tuesday they got into a real ding dong about this. Jack was insisting that a great disaster had occurred right across America... and, in fact, all over the world. And the scars it left behind do certainly look very old... except, said Jack, they're not. "You idiot!" protested Rusty. "All these things - beaches, coral, and what else, formed slowly over millions of years." "Can you prove that?" grinned Jack. "It's a cinch," beamed Rusty. "Magnetic reversals prove it. So many of them have occurred. And each one of them so slowly." WHAT ARE YOU SAYING? "Magnetic reversals?" sniffed Jack. What on earth are you talking about?" "Well," said Rusty, "if you didn't know, a magnetic reversal is a 'flip', in which the North pole is transformed into a South pole and the South pole becomes a North pole." "You say that's happened many times?" quizzed Jack."Okay, where's your evidence?" "The evidence is frozen into the rocks," responded Rusty, "especially those under the sea." Jack squinted at Rusty. "Oh yeah?" "Sure. And each reversal could take millions of years. So there!" "INFORMATION FROZEN" If you're finding this hard to track, then let me explain what Rusty was trying to say. Here's the theory. When lava cools down, it freezes into itself information about the direction and strength of the earth’s magnetic field at the time. The earth’s rocks have frozen into them the record of “MANY REVERSALS” of the earth’s field – in which the earth’s polarity has changed from north to south and back again. It is generally believed that such reversals could not take place in less than hundreds of thousands, or even millions of years. As Rusty was describing this, Jack's niece Barbara, who is a science major, came onto the deck. Politeness is not her strong point, but her science is pretty good. She glared at Rusty. "Did you wash down in the last shower?" she taunted him. "Don't you know there are on earth countless local magnetic fields? Don't you know these LOCAL magnetic fields can strongly influence and affect measurements in any given locality?" There was silence. Sensing she had the floor, Barb pressed her knowledge. "That's not all, you old horse. It can happen fast." Barbara looked straight at Rusty. And she went on to explain that two scientists, Robert S. Coe and Michael Prevot, found a thin lava layer... and when they closely examined it... Guess what? It had 90 degrees of reversal recorded continuously in it. BUT... surprise... surprise... AMAZINGLY FAST REVERSAL Calculations showed that the layer had to cool down within a matter of 15 days or less. (It was probably more like only 3 to 7 days.) Their discovery was sensational. In fact, their paper is filled with statements like “astonishingly fast change in the earth’s magnetic field” and “truly strains the imagination”. (Earth and Planetary Science Letters, April, 1989) Since then Coe has found similar data which indicates an even faster change than the one first reported. It was in a different rock stratum. Coe commented that others in his field “don’t want to believe it.” (Ex Nihilo, vol.15, no.3, June-August, 1993, pp.21,22) But he and Prevot had checked their results in several different ways and covered all angles. So the response of other scientists in the same field was one of cautious acceptance. There was a cautious review in Nature which accepted their work, but rather reluctantly. SEABED "REVERSALS"? NO WAY! However, there is something else you should know. We are being told that the Mid-Atlantic Ridge shows evidence of long term reversals. But you want the truth, right? So here it comes. This "long term reversals" claim is clearly a mistake. The truth is that on the bottom of the ocean along the Mid-Atlantic Ridge, areas of stronger and weaker magnetism were found – not reversals. As an instrument was dragged across the area, the signals showed a wave pattern of stronger – weaker – stronger – weaker, and so on. The conclusion was: “It is clear that the simple model of uniformly magnetized crustal blocks of alternating polarity does not represent reality.” (J.H. Hall and P.T. Robinson, “Deep Crustal Drilling in the North Atlantic Ocean”, Science, vol. 204, May 11, 1979, p. 578) Did you get that? The popular slow magnetic reversals theory is absolutely wrong. NO MAGNETIC REVERSALS Magnetic reversals in the Mid-Atlantic Ridge? Absolutely not! Nice neat lines of alternating polarity? No! May I say this again? There are no magnetic reversals on the ocean floor. There are only areas of weaker magnetism. That's all. SO HOW DID THIS HAPPEN? Are you ready for this? The solid evidence - whether we like it or not - brings us face to face with a mighty cataclysm in the past. Not only that, at least 600 ancient legends speak of it. In fact, did you know that the record of this cataclysm is the most widespread racial memory of mankind? Our ancestors happened to call this event the Great Flood. In fact, when you tie together all the varied strands of geological evidence, you can pretty well reconstruct what happened. So here is the chain of events: 1. As a passing outside force (postulated as an ice comet) approached earth, the increase in gravitational pull caused it to shatter in space. Most of its fragments were sucked in around the poles. Hitting a spinning object like the earth, this suddenly-dumped load threw the earth off axis, causing it to wobble. 2. The same force that tipped the earth over, generated high speed ultra-vibrations within the earth. With huge amounts of water and heat enceased under the crust, the pressure build-up became enormous. And the earth's crust exploded. 3. As cracks opened up, the land both sides slid away a little and the basalt rose in the middle. 4. The rising caused a series of parallel cracks. 5. Water entering the cracks cooled and solidified the basalt layer into a stronger magnetic field. You see, basalt, if it is hot, does not store a stronger magnetic signature, whereas if it is cooled off it stores a stronger magnetic signature. So now, when our scientists come to the Mid-Atlantic Ridge, all they are measuring is where the cracks are – with alternating stronger and weaker magnetism. That's right. There’s no magnetic reversal. In fact, there is no place where a north-seeking compass will point north, then south, by the rocks down there. No place. Not anywhere. Why has the scientific elite gone wrong on this? Simply because they have not been taking into account such a global catastrophe as the Great Flood and what it would do to the earth’s lower crust. That's the simple truth. That's why this phenomenon remains a puzzle to them. You understand, these "magnetic" phenomena did NOT take ages to form. This single event was just a few thousand years ago. But wait a minute, you ask, What about beaches, with all their millions of sand grains? And coral reefs? And the massive Grand Canyon? How much time did they take to form? If you are as inquisitive as the rest of us, you'll want to know the truth, right? You won't want to miss this incredible true story. Yes, my teams have been busy. And now you can have at your finger tips a wealth of down-to-earth inside secrets of this world that most professionals are still ignorant of. Here comes the truth... what "dangerous" secret is being officially covered up? And when you discover WHY it is being suppressed, you will know why it is DANGEROUS. All right, here it is. Here's where you can go here to discover more: http://www.beforeus.com/first.php xxx, let me say thankyou for being on my newsletter list.
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Om med att visa vad DU har skrivit för galenpannor är att vara ett psykfall då är jag det med glädje. "Geostationärbana vid månen" snacka om naturvetenskapligt kalhygge. http://vaken.se/modules/newbb/viewtop ... t_id=74779#forumpost74779 Varning för känsliga läsare......
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Kul att du ber mig läsa, jag läste din text, och fann att du gav mig rätt, jag sa att Jordens magnetfärlt skapar Van Allen bältet, och du svarar: "Van Allen-bältet är ett område där jordens magnetfält har fångat in elektriskt laddade partiklarfrån solen" Hur kul kan det bli, LOL
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Debatten om strålningen i rymden, är kort och gott strålningen i rymden, inte i Van Allen bältet.
I rymden kan man inte åka runt i en coca cola burk. Man får strålskador. frågot att besvara: Finns kosmisk radioaktiv strålning i rymden? a) JA b) Nej Stoppar aluminium 1, 2 eller 3 mm radioaktiv strålning? a) Ja b) Nej c) Jag ägnar mig hellre åt desinformation. Alternativ fråga vid 2 st A svar, vad är radioaktiv strålning? a) Vet ej. b) Månen är en ost.
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He he, den var kul, dom hade redan på den tiden miljötänkande och recykling. Postar bilderna för dem som inte kan klicka på länkarna.
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Det roliga blir då man läser vad DU skrivit tidigare!!! Eller har du Alzheimer-light!!!!???? Quote:
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Som Du ser, det är inte jag som behöver en lektion i retorik direkt, men jag vet ett par här som skulle behöva!!!!!!! Retorik 5 åring..... Quote:
Jo hej du.... Jag ger belägg med siffror att det är inte dödligt att fara igenom van Allen bältena eller avverka sträckan jorden-månen-jorden. Detta belägger jag med medföljande tabell. Du säger att den är falsk, för det första vet DU INTE vad tabellen visar för något, detta är det allvarligaste. Du kan dessutom INTE bevisa att den är falsk, vilket skulle rendera i att du måste kunna något om detta. Så du ger faktiskt själv svaren man behöver om allt detta. Hade DU haft något att komma med hade DU bevisat din ståndpunkt, nu är det bara dravel du kommer med. barnsligt jävla dravel. Men jag gissar på att du inte är så gammal utan nyss upptäkt nätet och dessa "mörka sida" Ta i stället och bevisa för oss hur tjock skalet på Apollokapseln var, du verkar ju säker på din sak och då torde det inte vara några problem för dig att lägga fram bevisen som gör att du kanske återvinner lite trovärdighet i debatten. Så fram med mått och vilka material som ingick i Apollokapseln. För du skall ha någon heder i behåll så bör du lägga fram vilka partiklar som är farliga och vilka partiklar som vilket material stoppar. Men låt mig redan nu tvivla, du kommer nog göra en "5 åring" och kräva av mig att jag skall bevisa vad DU påstår. Nämn gärna något exempel där man använder en sådan retorik utan för daghemmet violen.
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Lizzard-Bing skrev:
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Sluta ljug pajas!! Du kan inte klippa sönder mina inlägg och posta dem som citat, eftersom det jag sagt bevisar att du har fel. Det jag diskuterade i det inlägg, som du klippt i och försöker ljuga ihop till din fördel, var, att jag mot ditt nekande bevisade att kosmisk strålning, drabbar piloter, som befinner sig innan för Van Allen bältet, utanför i Kosmos, är det samma strålning som i en kärnreaktor. Se nedan hela citatet. förbannade lögnare! Quote: vitsen är inte att debattera cancer, men jag ser att du vill det, du som kan läsa kan läsa detta i artikeln: In an aircraft there is NO way you can protect yourself against this radiation, shielding would be too heavy and "sunscreen" does not help at all here (it only works - to some extent - against ultraviolet light NOT against X-rays , gamma rays or particle radiation). Ingen har sagt att man dör av att åka genom Van Allen bältena, återigen ljuger du, visa vem som sagt det? lögn igen, är det vad du kakkar retorik, som du är mästare i storljugarn?
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Men sprutvulkanen vill inte kommentera NASAs fina bilder. Har sprutvulkanen tagit sina tabletter i dag eller?
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Ja, har han tagit såna piller, är man ju tvungen att släpa med sig bilderna tills han har kommit till sans igen.
Pust och stånk!  Efter mer pust och stånk av nazas fina grabbar i studion!  Här har jag lagt bilderna ovan varandra, så man kan i detalj se att ingen skillnad finns i terrängen. Tar lång tid att ladda, men jag ville inte göra en lossy JPEG, så det vart en fet BMP 
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Du kan verkligen INTE läsa till dig fakta du. Van Allen bältena är ju just en hop av strålningspartiklar som samlas runt jorden, hålls kvar på plats av jordens magnetfält (som är ofarligt) Van Allen bältena innehåller ju en mycket högre mängd radioaktiva partiklar än innanför eller utanför. Så på en resa till månen från jorden har du högst strålning I VAN ALLEN BÄLTENA. UTANFÖR så är strålningen LÄGRE. De gånger då det förekom högre solaktivitet så hade man möjlighet att skydda sig inne i månlandaren och apollokapseln. An object satellite shielded by 3 mm of aluminium will receive about 2,500 rem (25 Sv) per year. Få se nu om du kan räkna ut att du har totalt fel då det gäller strålningsdosen och din cocacolaburk. Du har väl vid detta laget fattat att resan tog mindre än ett år till månen.. Gör nu din matteläxa så får vi se om det blir lite personliga påhopp eller om du kan dom 4 räknesätten. http://imagine.gsfc.nasa.gov/docs/ask_astro/answers/970228a.html Har du belägg för hur tjock material det var i kapseln än eller skall du fortsätta likt ett barn ljuga om det också????
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Nu tar vi det en gång till:
Men sprutvulkanen vill inte kommentera NASAs fina bilder. Har sprutvulkanen tagit sina tabletter i dag eller? |
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Ta daaaaaaa..... inget tada, Van Allen bältena passeras snabbt, kanske på några minuter, vad vet jag, men relativt snabbt i alla fall, till skillnad från att vistas ute i den kosmiska strålningenb, som är lika stark som i en kränreaktor. Vi har redan visat att den kosmiska strålningen, går igenom Van Allen bältet och påverkar piloter som flyger i flygplan på hög höjd, dessa flygplan kan inte ens de skyddas mot den kosmiska strålningen, eftersom detta skulle bli för tungt, än mer då, skulle en rymdfarkost som skall färdas utanför jordens skyddande magnetfärlt, behöva vara av en halvmeter tjockt bly för att skydda mot soleruptionerna, som skickar elektron stormar ut i rymden, dessa elektron stormar, kan till och med slå ut elektriska installationer på marknivå, och satteliter i rymden. Quote:
Du kan verkligen INTE läsa till dig fakta du. kosmisk strålning stoppas inte av 1 mm aluminium, då skulle man bygga kränkraftverk av 1 mm aluminium. Van Allen bältena är ju just en hop av strålningspartiklar som samlas runt jorden, hålls kvar på plats av jordens magnetfält (som är ofarligt)Dessa partiklar är lika skadliga som alla andra fria elektroner, och strålning Van Allen bältena innehåller ju en mycket högre mängd radioaktiva partiklar än innanför eller utanför. Så på en resa till månen från jorden har du högst strålning I VAN ALLEN BÄLTENA. UTANFÖR så är strålningen LÄGRE. De gånger då det förekom högre solaktivitet så hade man möjlighet att skydda sig inne i månlandaren och apollokapseln. An object satellite shielded by 3 mm of aluminium will receive about 2,500 rem (25 Sv) per year. "People usually get about 0.24 rem (2.4 mSv) in background radiation per year. (Jawororwski, Zbigniew. "Radiation Risks in the 20th Century: Reality, Illusions, and Risks" Presented 17 Sept. 1998 at the International Curie Conference, Warsaw, Poland.)" http://www.clavius.org/envradintro.html ----Tiotusen ggr mer strålning än bakgrundstrålningen på jorden alltså. [/b] dessa satteliter skyddas innaför Van Allen bältet, och befinner sig inte i den kosmiska strålningen utanför jordens magnetfäält, där strålningen är lika stark, som inne i en kärnreaktor. Få se nu om du kan räkna ut att du har totalt fel då det gäller strålningsdosen och din cocacolaburk. Du har väl vid detta laget fattat att resan tog mindre än ett år till månen.. Gör nu din matteläxa så får vi se om det blir lite personliga påhopp eller om du kan dom 4 räknesätten. http://imagine.gsfc.nasa.gov/docs/ask_astro/answers/970228a.html Har du belägg för hur tjock material det var i kapseln än eller skall du fortsätta likt ett barn ljuga om det också????[/quote] det är din teori, så du kan leta rätt på den exakta siffran, ryssarna visste att man inte kunde bygga en sådan kapsel, som skulle kunna skydda austronaterna, så dom avstod, men eftersom Usa skulle skicka AstroNots, som inte skulle till månen, utan bara circulera innanför Van allen bältet, kunde dom åka i den sedvanliga coca cola burken, och mumsa chips, medans bedrägeriet utfördes i en studio i öknen. You can not run around in our solar system in a tin can and expect to be safe from these rays. As a matter of fact Aluminum, which I believe was a major component in space craft that went to the moon, is a dangerous metal to use to protect our astronants because of its propensity for secondary radioactive emmisions and it's low atomic weight. We also know that neutrons have no charge and cannot rely on attractive forces like negative and positive ions to recombine with shielding material. They must be slowed down by encountering small atomic particles on the same order of their size, since anything much larger than a single neutron which enters into an inelastic collision with that energetic neutron will not absorb much of the energy of the neutron. The neutron will simply take off in another direction at almost the same speed of impact. This means that you must have a high concentration of our lightest element to shield from neutrons. The only way to get a high concentration of hydrogen is in the form of liguid hydrogen, water or light weight hydrocarbons like polyethelene. When energetic neutrons strike light hydrogen necluei, the collisions transfer a much more significant amount of energy. A good way to look at this is the model of the stainless steel balls in the Click-Clacks kinetic energy toys. Several inches to a few feet would be needed to slow high energy neutrons. http://www.bautforum.com/archive/index.php/t-2892.html How could that stop this deadly radiation? And if the astronauts were protected by their space suits, why didn't rescue workers use such protective gear at the Chernobyl meltdown, which released only a fraction of the dose astronauts would encounter? Not one Apollo astronaut ever contracted cancer - not even the Apollo 16 crew who were on their way to the Moon when a big flare started. "They should have been fried", says Rene. http://www.apfn.org/apfn/moon.htm
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I den första länken så är det om NASA cover ups och "NASA Dismisses Former Apollo Photo and Data Manager"- Ken Johnston. Han har skrivit: Scientists unveil NASA’s secrets about cities on the Moon and microbes on Mars U.S. scientists say that Apollo astronauts found ancient ruins on the Moon http://i191.photobucket.com/albums/z2 ... nger_album/moon-ruins.jpg  The former manager of the Data and Photo Control Department at NASA’s Lunar Receiving Laboratory during the manned Apollo Lunar Program, Ken Johnston, has released quite a number of sensational statements recently in the USA. The specialist said that U.S. astronauts found ancient ruins of artificial origin and a previously unknown technology to control gravitation when then landed on the Moon. Astronauts took pictures of the objects that they found, but NASA ordered Johnston to destroy the images. Johnston did not follow the order. He said that the U.S. government had been keeping this information a secret for 40 years. Johnston's startling Apollo allegations have recently appeared in a new book, "Dark Mission: the Secret History of NASA," co-authored by former NASA consultant and CBS Science Advisor, Richard C. Hoagland and Mike Bara, an aerospace engineering consultant. According to Kay Ferrari, JPL Director of the SSA Program (in a phone call to Johnston last week), it was Johnston "being quoted [as] criticizing NASA in Hoagland's new book, 'Dark Mission,'" that prompted her to ask for Johnston's resignation from the SSA Program. When Johnston refused, citing First Amendment protections of free speech afforded all NASA employees, even those at JPL, Ferrari apparently decided to remove him arbitrarily from the SSA Program this week without cause. The low quality pictures included in the book depict ruins of buildings, huge dome-like objects made of glass, stone towers and castled hanging in the air. “I have nothing to lose. I have quarreled with NASA and I got fired,” Ken Johnston said. Indeed, NASA believes that allegations of the ancient civilization found on the Moon are not serious. The authors of the controversial book also say that President John F. Kennedy, who launched the lunar race with the Soviet Union, actually intended to share extraterrestrial technologies with Moscow. Making a speech at the United Nations Organizations in September of 1963, Kennedy supposedly offered the USSR to organize a joint mission to the Moon. Richard Hoagland believes that Washington’s interest in the Moon exploration that suddenly appeared after 30 years of silence is based on the lunar findings that the U.S. government has been keeping a secret for 40 years. Russia, China, Japan and even India have publicly announced their plans to work on the exploration of the Moon. The USA, Hoagland said, wants to be the first at this point. In December NASA announced plans to build an international base on one of the poles of the Moon. The base is to be finished by 2024. Russia’s booster rocket maker, Energia, has a more ambitious program: to build a permanent manned base on the Moon by 2015. Russia says the base will be built to develop the industrial production of helium-3. U.S. specialists prefer not to say anything specific on the matter. To crown it all, China launched its first satellite to the Moon on October 24. China also intends to launch a lunar base and an unmanned space probe to the Moon by 2010. Non-radioactive isotope of helium, helium-3, is a powerful fuel for the nuclear synthesis. Only six tons of this fuel would provide enough energy to power a large European country for one year. The qualities of the gas (pollution-free and very high output) make many countries treat the perspective as seriously as possible. Germany, India and China conduct a number of research works to develop methods of helium-3 extraction. Hoagland and Johnston also intend to prove that NASA virtually acts as another defense department of the United States, entitled to classify important technical and scientific information without the control of the U.S. Congress. Hoagland says that American astronauts could secretly deliver samples of extraterrestrial technologies from the Moon to the Earth. The technologies, the scientist says, push world’s leading countries into a new lunar race. “Unlike the previous space race between the USSR and the USA, the new one will determine the life of every single human being on Earth,” Hoagland said. Hoagland and Johnston think that the USA deliberately intensifies shuttle launches in order to shut down the program ahead of schedule and start using new the spacecraft, Constellation, that will let the USA land on the Moon again. Richard Hoagland says that NASA conceals a number of other secrets, including the discovery of microbes on the surface of Mars. The discovery was supposedly made by unmanned space probe Viking in 1976.
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http://www.pureinsight.org/pi/index.php?news=976
Moon, Where Are You From? When did the moon first accompany our earth? Perhaps it has been looking at the earth long before human beings appeared on earth. Twenty-six years have passed since the first moon landing by the American astronauts from the Apollo 11 mission to the moon on July 19, 1969, yet human beings are no wiser than before about the moon. On the contrary, scientists are now perplexed by the data gathered by the instruments left on the moon. When we look at the moon at night, we a have familiar yet strange feeling. We can't help but ask, 'Dear moon, could you tell us a bit more about yourself? Where did you come from, for instance?' At present, there are three theories to explain how the moon originated. The first one is that the dust and gaseous clouds from the universe formed the moon, just like our earth, 4.6 billion years ago. The second theory is that the moon was thrown off from the earth from somewhere under the Pacific Ocean. The third theory holds that the moon was an independent planet that was captured by the earth's gravitational force when passing by, and it has been revolving around the earth ever since. Most scientists initially believed in the first theory, although some favored the second one. Yet, analysis of the moon soil samples brought back by astronauts indicates that the composition of the moon is different from that of the earth. The earth has more iron and less silicon deposited in it, while the moon is just the opposite. In addition, the earth has very few titanium ores, whereas the moon has many. These findings show that the moon was not separated from the earth. By the same token, the first hypothesis is also shaky. If the moon and earth were formed through the same process, at around the same time, then why are they so different in their composition? Scientists have abandoned the first theory, which leaves only the last theory. If the moon entered the solar system from outer space, it should have flown towards the Sun instead of being held by the earth, because of the sun's much stronger gravitational pull. None of the three hypotheses proposed by orthodox scientists answers all of the questions or holds up to scrutiny. The origin of the moon still remains a mystery. There is plenty of room for people to propose new theories on the origin of the moon. No matter how ridiculous the theories may seem, they should not be labeled nonscientific out of hand, without careful consideration. Some Peculiar 'Coincidences' Between the Sun, Earth, and Moon Let's take a look at and think about some of the unbelievably peculiar astronomical phenomena that occur between the sun, earth and moon. The average distance between the earth and the moon is 380,000 km, and between the sun and the earth is about 150,000,000 km. The latter is about 395 times further than the former. The diameter of the sun is about 1,380,000 km, while that of the moon is 3,400 km; the ratio of the two is again 395 times greater. Both ratios are 395. Could it be a coincidence? What does it mean? Please think about it. The sun is 395 times larger than the moon, yet it is 395 times farther away from the earth than the moon. The two appear the same size when seen from earth because of the distance differences. Is this a natural or artificial phenomenon? Where in the universe can one find three celestial bodies with this kind of coincidence? The two planets shine on the earth in turns, one during the day and the other at night. There is not another example of such phenomena in our solar system. The prestigious scientist, Isaac Asimov, once said that, according to all the data available, the moon in principle should not exist in that position. He also said, 'The moon is big enough to result in a solar eclipse, yet small enough to generate corona. Our astronomy just can't explain the coincidence among the coincidences.' Is it really a coincidence? Not really, according to some scientists. William R. Sheldon, a scientist, said, 'In order to orbit around the earth, a spaceship has to maintain a velocity of 10,800 miles per hour at a height of 100 miles. Similarly, in order for the moon to keep itself in its orbit to balance the earth's gravitational force, it also needs accurate velocity, self-weight, and altitude.' The question is: if the current set of conditions is impossible to achieve by nature, why are they this way? It's Too Big to be a Satellite There are several planets in the solar system that have naturally occurring satellites. However, the moon is unnaturally large for a satellite. It is too large in comparison to its parent planet. Let us take a look at the following data. The earth's diameter is 12,756 km; the moon's is 3,467 km, which is about 27% that of the earth's. Mars' diameter is 6,787 km. Mars has two satellites. The larger one has a diameter of 23 km, about 0.34% that of Mars. Jupiter's diameter is 142,800 km. It has 13 satellites. The largest one has a diameter of 5,000 km, which is 3.5% of Jupiter's. Saturn's diameter is 120,000 km. It has 23 satellites. The largest one has a diameter of 4,500 km, which is about 3.75% of Saturn's diameter. None of the satellites has a diameter exceeding 5% of the parent planet's diameter, but the moon's is 27% of the earth's diameter. Isn't the moon unnaturally large by comparison? The data indeed indicates that the moon is extraordinary. The Meteorite Craters Are All Too Shallow Scientists tell us that the craters on the surface of the moon were caused by the impact of meteors or comets. There are also meteorite craters on earth. According to scientific calculations, if a meteorite of several miles in diameter hits the earth or the moon at a speed of 30,000 miles per second, which is equivalent to one million tons of dynamite, the depth of the crater it creates should be four to five times that of its diameter. The meteorite craters on earth prove this to be correct. Yet the craters on the moon are strangely shallow. For example, Gagrin Crater, the deepest one, is only four miles deep, although its diameter is 186 miles. With a diameter of 186 miles, the depth of the crater should be at least 700 miles, instead of 4 miles, which is just 12% of the diameter. This is another scientific impossibility. Why is it so? Astronomers are unable to come up with a perfect explanation and they don't seem to want to either. They know that a perfect explanation would overturn established theories. The only explanation is that the moon's crust is composed of a very hard substance four miles beneath the surface. The meteorites have failed to penetrate this hard layer. Then, what is the very hard substance? Metals Whose Existence is Impossible It is not strange that the moon craters have a great deal of lava. What is strange is that the lava contains rich metal elements such as titanium, chromium, yttrium, etc., which are rarely found on earth. Those metals are all very hard and resistant to both high temperatures and corrosion. Scientists estimate that it requires 2000-3000º C to melt these metals. But the moon has been a dead and cold orb without volcanic activity for three billion years. How did the moon generate so many kinds of metals that require such high temperatures to melt? Moreover, analysis of the 380 kg of moon soil samples brought back by astronauts shows that there is pure iron and pure titanium. Such pure metal deposits just aren't found under natural conditions. What do the unexplainable facts tell us? They have undoubtedly demonstrated that these metal elements were not formed under natural conditions, but were extracted. Then the questions is by whom and when? The Side that Can't Be Seen from the Earth It is always the same side of the moon that faces the earth. Man did not see the opposite side until the spaceship landed there and photographed it. Astronomers had always thought that the backside should be similar to the front with many meteorite craters and lava seas. But the photographs showed a much different scene. The backside of the moon is very bumpy. Most are small craters and mountain ranges with very few lava seas. Scientists are unable to explain the differences. In theory, the probability of being hit by meteorites should be the same for both sides of the moon if it was a naturally formed planet. Why is there a difference? Why is it always the same side of the moon that faces the earth? The explanation from the scientists is that the moon rotates around its own axis with a velocity of 16.56 km per hour, and it also revolves around the earth at exactly the same speed. Thus the same side always faces the earth. This phenomenon does not exist for any other planet and its satellites in our solar system- nly for our earth and moon. Is it another coincidence along with the other coincidences? Is there an explanation other than coincidence? Strange Phenomena in the Past Hundreds of Years For the last 300 hundred years, astronomers have observed many unexplainable phenomena about the moon. Casini discovered a cluster of clouds over the moon in 1671. In April 1786, William Herser, the father of modern astronomy, observed the signs of volcanic eruptions on the moon, although scientists believe that there has not been any volcanic activity on the moon for 3 billion years. Then, what was observed that looked like volcanic eruptions? In 1843, German astronomer John Schicoto, who made hundreds of maps of the moon, found that the Leany Crater, with an original diameter of several kilometers, was becoming smaller. Today, the Leany Crater is only a tiny spot with white sediment surrounding it. Scientists do not know why. On April 24, 1882, scientists discovered that there were unidentified objects moving on the surface in the Aristocrat's Zone. On October 19, 1945, the Darwin Wall on the surface of the moon was observed to have three shiny points on it. On the evening of July 6, 1954, the head of the Minnesota Observatory and his assistants saw a dark line inside the Picallomy Crater, which shortly disappeared. On September 8, 1955, lightning appeared twice along the edge of the Ross Crater. Again on February 9, 1956, Dr. Toyota, Meiji University, Japan, saw several dark objects that seemed to have formed the shape of letters DYAX and JWA. On February 4, 1966, a Russian unmanned space-vehicle, Moon Goddess 9, landed on the Rain Sea and photographed two rows of pyramid-like structures that were equidistant from each other. Dr. Van Sunder stated, 'They could strongly reflect the sunlight, pretty much like the marks on runways.' Calculated from the length of the shadows, the structures are about as high as a fifteen-story building. Dr. Van Sunder said, 'There were no highlands nearby from which the rocks would have rolled over to the current positions to form the geometrical shapes.' Additionally, Moon Goddess 9 also photographed a mysterious cave on the edge of the Stormy Sea. Moon research expert Dr. Wilkins believes that these circular caves go directly to the center of the moon. Wilkins himself once discovered a gigantic cave at Casiny Crater A. On November 20, 1966, American Orbit 2 Exploration Spaceship photographed several pyramid-like structures from 46 km above the Tranquility Sea. Scientists estimated that the pyramids are 15 to 25 meters high and that they are also geometrically positioned. The structures are lighter in color than the rocks and soil around them and they are obviously not natural objects. On September 11, 1967, the Montelow Team of astronomers discovered a 'black cloud with purple borders' over the Tranquility Sea. The strange phenomena were not observed by laypeople, but by astronomers and spaceship probes. This means that the moon does have many mysteries unknown to human beings. UFO over the Moon On November 24, 1968, Apollo 8, while investigating future landing spots, encountered a colossal floating object that occupied several square miles. When Apollo 8 came back to the same spot from its orbital lap around the moon, the object was no longer there. What was it? No one knows. Apollo 10, while at 50,000 feet above the moon, was approached by an unidentified flying object. This encounter was documented on film. On July 19, 1969, Apollo 11 carried three astronauts to the moon who later became the first men on the moon. En route to the moon, the astronauts saw an unusual object in front of them. Viewing at a distance of about 6,000 miles, they initially thought that it must be the rocket propeller from the Apollo 4. Looking through binoculars, they found that the object was L-shaped. 'It looked like an opened briefcase,' said Armstrong. Looking further through a sextant, they found the object looked like a cylinder. Another astronaut, Aldrin, said, 'We also saw several smaller objects passing by, causing turbulence to our ship, then we saw this brighter object flying by.' On July 21, when Aldrin entered the Landing Capsule for final check-up, he suddenly saw two floating objects. One of them was bigger and brighter, flying at high speed in parallel to the spaceship's front, which shortly disappeared. It reemerged a few seconds later. At that moment the two objects shot out two light beams that joined together. Then they suddenly separated from each other, ascended rapidly and disappeared. When the astronauts were about to land on the moon, they heard the voice from Control Center, 'Control Center calling Apollo 11, what are they out there?' Apollo 11 answered, 'These babes are humongous, Sir . . . a lot of them . . .Oh, my God, you won't believe it. Let me tell you there are other spaceships there . . . by the edge of the circular craters, and they are well positioned . . . and they are watching us from the moon . . ..' Russian scientist Dr. Arched said, 'According to our intercepted signals, the encounter with floating objects as the Apollo 11 landed was immediately reported.' On November 20, 1969, astronauts Conrad and Brian of Apollo 12 observed floating objects when they landed on the moon. Astronauts landing on the moon from Apollo 15 in August 1971, Apollo 16 in April 1972, and Apollo 17 in December 1972 also encountered the floating objects. Gary, a scientist, once said, 'Almost all the astronauts have seen some unidentified flying objects.' Edwards, the sixth astronaut to land on the moon, said, 'The only question is where they came from.' John Younger, the ninth astronaut on the moon, said, 'If you don't believe it, it is like you don't believe in a sure thing.' In 1979, former NASA Director of Communication Molly Chertlin stated that 'encountering the floating objects' is very common. She went on, 'All the spaceships have been followed by some floating objects either at a distance or very closely. Whenever it happens, the astronauts would contact our mission center.' Years later, Armstrong revealed, 'It is incredible . . . We were all warned that there are for sure cities or spaceships on the moon . . . I can only say that their spaceships are much superior and they are huge . . ..' Thousands of the lunar mystical phenomena, such as the mysterious lightning, white and black clouds, structures, floating objects and so on, are all facts observed by astronomers and scientists. They are yet to be explained as to what they are. The Moon is a Hollow Spaceship In 1970, Russian scientists Alexander Scherbakov and Mihkai Vasin proposed a shocking Spaceship Moon hypothesis to explain the origin of the moon. They believe that the moon is in fact not a natural satellite of the earth, but a spaceship created by intelligent beings that modified and reshaped a planet. There are a lot documents regarding their civilization stored inside the moon, which was intentionally placed above the earth. All of the discoveries of the moon are in fact the outstanding work of the intelligent beings that live inside of it. Of course, the scientific community is scornful of the theory, because they have not captured any ET yet. Nonetheless, it is undeniable that the moon has been shown to be hollow by data gathered so far. What perplexes scientists the most is the data gathered from the instruments left on the moon which measure the quake activities of the moon's crust. The data indicates that the quake waves spread from the epicenter along the surface of the moon only, but not into the center of the moon. This shows that the moon is hollow and it is nothing but a crust. If it was a solid planet, the quake waves should also propagate toward the center. How could they only go along the surface? Reconstruct New Theories About the Moon Let's construct a new theory about the moon. It is hollow and has two layers of crust. The outer crust consists of rocks and mineral ores. Meteorites can only hit through this crust. The known craters are no deeper than four miles. Thus, this outer crust is at most five miles thick. The inner crust is a hard, artificial alloy shell of unknown thickness-probably several miles. Its metal elements include iron, titanium, chromium, and others that resist high temperatures, high pressure and corrosion. It is an alloy unknown on earth. The moonquake data indicates that moonquake waves propagate along the moon's surface but not towards its center. This means that the moon only has two layers of crust. Thus the moon must be artificial, rather than naturally formed. Intelligent beings must have conducted accurate calculations to transport the moon from their star system to the solar system and to position it where it is in order to provide light to the earth at night. In conclusion, none of the three traditional theories of the origin of the moon is correct. The beings that constructed the moon allow only one side of the moon to face the earth because there are many observation devices on the earth. They themselves live inside the moon closer to the back. Because the surface temperature of the moon varies from 127º C at noon to -183º C at night, the inhabitants live inside the moon. The moon-making beings have invented flying saucers and they often fly out to do research, maintain their surface devices, or to watch the earthlings' activities. They are thus sometimes seen by astronauts from earth or observed by telescopes on earth. We don't yet know what kind of aliens they are or how long they have been there. Perhaps before long, earthlings will find out the truth about the moon. We have constructed this theory to explain the origin and structure of the moon by using the lunar phenomena that cannot be explained by traditional science. This theory perfectly solves each and every mystery surrounding the moon. Who would argue that our approach is non-scientific? The Real Story of the Moon In his 'Lecture in Switzerland' Mr. Li Hongzhi said this about the origin of the Moon: 'In the past, the situation was different than that of today¡¯s science. The people of the different time periods were of course developing in the ways of those times. People in one of those times recognized the inconvenience that the dark of night caused people, so they constructed a moon up there to bring light to Earth during the night. ' Mr. Li Hongzhi further explains this in Zhuan Falun (Volume II): 'In the prehistoric period, the human civilization sometimes lasted long, sometimes short. Some human civilizations lasted very long. Mankind in every cycle takes a different way in the development of science. People of the present civilization are confined to the established conventions of the present development of science and cannot realize that there are other ways of science. In fact, the ancient science of China was completely different from the science introduced from the present-day Europe. In ancient China, people did direct research on the human body, life, and universe. The ancients dared to touch the intangible and invisible things and were able to verify their existence. The sensation one feels when he sits in meditation will become more and more keen, until finally one not only has a very keen sensation, but also can touch or see it, which has raised something invisible to something tangible. The ancients took another way to probe the secrets of life and the relationship between the human body and the universe. That is completely different from the way taken by the present-day science of authentic proof. In fact, the moon was made by the prehistoric human beings. It is hollow inside. The prehistoric mankind was well developed. '
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Vad menas? Månen och solen är inte planeter. Månen syns även på dagen. Quote: 'In order to orbit around the earth, a spaceship has to maintain a velocity of 10,800 miles per hour at a height of 100 miles. Nej, det går att vara i omloppsbana på vilken höjd du vill (bara man är tillräckligt högt för att inte bromsas av atmosfären). Quote: Similarly, in order for the moon to Höjden den hamnar på bestäms av hastigheten. Det sker helt naturligt och det är exakt samma sak med alla planeters hastighet och avstånd till solen, och alla andra månar till alla andra planeter. (i hela universum) Om du hade rätt i att det var omöjligt att få det att ske naturligt så skulle ingen himlakropp hamna i omloppsbana kring en annan på naturlig väg. Quote: It is too large in comparison to its parent planet. Let us take a look at the following data. The earth's diameter is 12,756 km; Båda dessa månar är alltså större än vår måne. Alltså är inte vår måne exceptionellt stor i absoluta termer. Quote: The Meteorite Craters Are All Too Shallow eh, knappast. Kratrar blir inte så väldigt djupa, och absolut inte mer än tre gånger djupare än diametern. Läs här om kratrar man undersökt på Merkurius: http://www.lpi.usra.edu/meetings/lpsc2006/pdf/2054.pdf De kratrar man undersökt är 20-200 km i diameter och 1-10 km djupa. Man ser också att djupet tenderar att vara proportionellt mot logaritmen av diametern, dvs jämför man stora krater med små så tenderar de stora kratern att vara mindre djupa i förhållande till diametern. Quote: Why is it always the same side of the moon that faces the earth? The explanation from the scientists is that the moon rotates around its own axis with a velocity of 16.56 km per hour, and it also revolves around the earth at exactly the same speed. Thus the same side always faces the earth. Förklaringen är att tidvatteneffekterna från jorden har bromsat ner månens rotation till att vända samma sida mot jorden. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tidal_locking Quote: This phenomenon does not exist for any other planet and its satellites in our solar system- nly for our earth and moon. Is it another coincidence along with the other coincidences? Is there an explanation other than coincidence? REN OCH SKÄR UPPENBAR LÖGN. De flesta månar i solsystemet har låsts till samma rotationshastighet som sin planet av tidvattenkrafterna, som jag skrev i inlägg #113: Quote:
http://vaken.se/modules/newbb/viewtop ... t_id=73873#forumpost73873 Quote: In 1970, Russian scientists Alexander Scherbakov and Mihkai Vasin proposed a shocking Spaceship Moon hypothesis to explain the origin of the moon. They believe that the moon is in fact not a natural satellite of the earth, but a spaceship created by intelligent beings that modified and reshaped a planet. There are a lot documents regarding their civilization stored inside the moon, which was intentionally placed above the earth. All of the discoveries of the moon are in fact the outstanding work of the intelligent beings that live inside of it. Of course, the scientific community is scornful of the theory, because they have not captured any ET yet. Nonetheless, it is undeniable that the moon has been shown to be hollow by data gathered so far. stor humor!!!
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Ja,stor humor. Massa Månstenbumlingar" + runda månar som de säger att kratrarna är bevis på vulkanisk aktivitet... "Saturn's moons - The ice moon Enceladus - Evidence for geologic activity from varying crater density" http://www.astro.psu.edu/users/niel/a ... ws/class41/slides-41.html De är kanske konstruktioner hela bunten. Att de där stenbumlingarna inte har normalt snurr gentemot sin planet är kanske inte så konstigt.
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Tja snackepåsen Hoagland berättade ju om Mars måne som vred sig runts sin axel, och sköt ner en sattelit, men hur skall man kunna veta detta, å andra sidan, hur skall man kunna utesluta detta, bara för att man inget läste i skolan, eller kan hitta på ggoogggllee? Det kan vara antingen, eller inte alls i vilket fall. Till dags datum har man sett så mycket som inte var som man trodde att jag reserverar mig för att "veta säkert" innan mer finns på bordet, så allt är möjligt, utom det man anser vara omöjligt, fast det kan vara möjligt ändå. ZPZ jag highlitade vad jag tyckte var kul i den artikeln, men jag försvarar den inte, det var ett citat, så du får vända dig hit: http://www.pureinsight.org/pi/index.php?news=976 visst, dom kallade månen och solen planet, lustigt, men man förstår vad han menar, har han rätt eller fel, märk inte ord, han kanske bara är dyslextiker, hehe
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Såg denna, som ju postats förr här i forumet:
Kul! Expanding Earth flash animation http://blog.hollowearththeory.com/search/label/Animation
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Det var denna som postas här förr, inte den jag skrev innan:
Expanding Earth - haha... yes! - 3 min http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7kL7qDeI05U Expanding Earth Theory - Forming of Mountains http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nfgkm0eBGsc The Earth is Growing 10 min http://vids.myspace.com/index.cfm?fus ... vidual&videoID=2019776061
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Vissa säger att gravitationen minskar, då skulle detta vara resultatet.
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Fina länkar novax. Tack.
NASAs påstående avseende månresan på 60-talet är ungefär lika trovärdigt som att jag cyklade över Atlanten i förrgår. Månlandaren som "användes" hade inte ens lyckats landa på jorden. Och var kom månbilen ifrån? Den officiella historien är ju skrattretande. |
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Jag vet inte om ditt ”haha” i detta fall visar att du inte tror på denna expanderande jord teori. Teorin är inte ett dugg trovärdig. Var kommer det magiskt uppdykande vattnet ifrån när jorden expanderar från nästan 100 % landyta till dagens situation med 29 % landyta? Vilka krafter fick jorden att expandera och hur gick det till i jordens inre? Indien ”flöt” inte på haven utan glider på en av jordens tektoniska plattor. I kanterna på dessa plattor så när de glider in i varandra berg som Himalaya och Alperna. Glider plattorna i sär eller förbi varandra isär bildas vulkaner där Island som ligger mitt i detta och vulkanen Mount St. Helen ligger vid plattor som glider förbi varandra. |
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