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Inget svar på huvudfrågan.

Värför blir så få sjuka av "Chemtrails"?

Ville nån släppa ut bakterier i luften så vore det så fruktansvärt mycket lättare att göra det från marken eller någon skorsten.

Du skulle man även veta var de kommer att hamna, till skillnad från om man släpper ut det på 10 km höjd.

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Då ska vi se. Vissa som får TBC dör, vissa som får TBC dör inte men förblir infekterade och vissa får TBC och sedan försvinner TBC helt ur deras kroppar.

Förklara nu denna skillnad.

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De som dött har sedan benen i vädret. De som inte dött springer omkring.

Andra springer eller linkar omkring i livet, de kan ha symtom och eventuellt så kallade sjukdomar eller tillstånd. Science kanske ser saker eller inte, kanske säger att man har det eller så har man det inte - kanske deras instrument och datorer säger bu eller bä.

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Jag glömde skriva att TBC exemplet gällde innan man hittade penicillinet alltså innan man hade någon bot överhuvudtaget.

Att du inte vet är ju klarlagt då du inte anser att VETenskapen är något man använder för att ta reda på hur saker egentligen fungerar.

Att du ser ned på vetenskapen är helt obegripligt då du inte hade haft en dator att skriva vid om vetenskapen hade varit så illa sett av flertalet som din syn på den.

Varför använder du dig av flera olika alts, vad är din sjukdom Zink?

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Kan du aldrig skriva bättre vad du menar utan att hoppa på mig men en massa dravel?

Ni e helt av banan grabbar,
ödsla energi på detta sätt
knacka ett ägg
glad pjåsk

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Det är väl klart man inte kan se upp till vårt tids stora religion Science - det vore befängt.

Teknikutvecklingen är ingen produkt från vanliga människors sinnen - det är det aldrig genom historien när vi kunnat se en märkligt snabb uppgång av en kultur/civilisation - innan den sedan försvinner - det är alltid alien - vi är delvis alien - detta är deras planet.

Datorerna är alienteknik.

Det du säger att det är obegripligt att jag ser ned på "vetenskapen" för att jag annars inte hade haft en dator att skriva på... det vore väl ett ett steg tillbaka (framåt) för mänskligheten om vi kunde stå på våra egna ben istället - bort med detta kring överdriven el och teknik - mycket gärna bort med tv och datorer - kunna leva ett riktigt och gott liv. Li Hongzhi säger att alla som sköter en dator har tilldelats ett nummer från alien, ej citat.

Datorer är i deras evil agenda.

Här är lite om teknik, alien och datorer mm, från

Teaching the Fa at the 2003 Atlanta Fa Conference

(Li Hongzhi, November 29, 2003)


Question: Is it appropriate to teach modern science on our TV station?

Teacher: I’ll tell you that when Master discusses science, actually I’m not negating it. It is a product of the cosmos. Actually, I treasure everything that is forged by beings over a drawn-out period of time, so long as it’s not by nature damaging to the cosmos and it helps the cosmos flourish. The course of life is not simple. I was only saying that science is unsuitable for mankind. Haven’t its deficiencies now been exposed?

You’ve seen how under the influence of science human beings believe in gods less and less. And yet human beings were created by gods. Not only were they created by gods, the purpose of creating human beings was to allow lives that come from high levels to be saved when Fa-rectification takes place. What’s more, mankind will become a level that is truly indispensable to the future cosmos, and will thus be connected to the overall cosmos. It has such a huge purpose, and there’s such a grand background, and yet this science thing is damaging human beings’ basic proper thoughts.

When beings use science on a large scale, it indeed has a very bad effect in the cosmos. The cosmos is a cycling entity, and all factors of matter are cycling. In the process of being eliminated, the beings that have sinned rid themselves of those sins. They are eliminated, eliminated, and eliminated, until in that elimination process they are reduced to only death matter with no life whatsoever, and then they will gradually rise one level after another and be utilized. The cosmos is a cycling entity, and if a substance is warped that will be a bad situation. The warped substance will be absorbed by lower-level beings, the high-level beings can’t go to the low levels to resolve it, and when the substance that can’t be resolved by lower-level beings is used again, it sublimates during the cycling, and after the initial warpedness sublimates, higher-level beings can’t completely resolve it, either. As it sublimates it can’t be completely resolved at any of the levels, and when this happens to numerous substances it causes a large part of the cosmos to become warped.

You know, the steel and iron we have today, most are composites of many different metals. When they are re-smelted you cannot again make the metal pure, and no technology can completely separate them anymore. You know, once chemical fertilizers are applied to soil, you can’t grow anything out of that soil if you stop chemically fertilizing it; it won’t grow anything anymore. The seeds that were chemically fertilized require the chemical fertilization each time around. The warped seeds can’t sustain themselves without chemical fertilization. The chemical fertilizers, you know, they’re composites of chemical things.

There are many ways in which substances cycle. I’ll just talk about the simplest way in which substances cycle: the substances of plants, animals, and the human body are all composed of particles, and there are gaps among particles. When you magnify and look at the gaps, you’ll see that the gaps are huge. From those gaps smells are emitted, and those smells themselves, from the vantage point of a microcosmic level, are in fact fields that are composed of particles as well, so all animals and plants are emitting microcosmic substances. Those things are continually used by the level above them, and when all kinds of factors that compose water, air, and substances—which are needed in composing human beings and other living organisms—have warped due to the initial pollution, then what’s used by the dimension one level above is now fundamentally warped.

I’ve told you before that because of alien science and technology, one layer of the human body, one of the human body’s layers of particles, has been placed fully under the control of aliens. It consists entirely of alien planets’ elements, including numbers, mechanical structures, electronic components, and so on. It consists of that stuff. And those things are continually creating a warped effect. The large-scale modern industries brought about by science have impacted many low-level dimensions in the cosmos. In my Fa-rectification I’ve found that quite a large layer of the cosmos has been contaminated by those things. And those warped things have had a considerably large resisting effect in the Fa-rectification.

Think about it, those things are warped, and yet they’ve elevated to such microcosmic levels, so if gods then absorb them, wouldn’t those gods become warped too? And wouldn’t the gods’ worlds become warped? That’s what has happened, in fact. Think about how horrifying that is! That’s why I said that those things aren’t suitable for mankind and can only be used by beings within appropriate, extremely small parameters and in an orderly fashion.

I’ll tell you, the air has become so polluted that no one can restore it back to the degree of purity it had before. We don’t need to go too far back: it can’t even be compared to the air one thousand years ago. Human beings have warped too, and they’ve gotten used to it. And water has been so contaminated that there’s no way to purify it to the purest degree, since water cycles, as well.

I’ve told you before that water is water, and ocean water is a different substance and not the same substance as freshwater. Freshwater can be extracted from ocean water, and it’s the same as how metal can be extracted from rocks. It’s extracted. Freshwater usually flows to a lower point, and when it gets even lower it’s the ocean, as the ocean is certainly lower than land. So it flows into the ocean. But after it flows into the ocean, the freshwater doesn’t disperse. Particles of water are smaller than the particles of the substances in ocean water, so the water flows through those particles and flows away, it works like the network of energy channels in the human body, and so the water then circulates back. That’s why some rivers continually flow for tens of thousands of years or hundreds of thousands of years. Some people say that rivers flow due to the flow of underground water and due to ice melting. But as you can see, how could those rivers be so huge? And they’ve been flowing robustly for tens of thousands of years. For instance, the Yangtze River and the major rivers in the U.S., those rivers are so large, how much water is needed to sustain them endlessly? Some say that water comes from ice-capped mountains, but some rivers don’t originate from ice-capped mountains whatsoever. The reality is, water cycles. After it flows away—its cyclical process is also its purification process—it is purified and it returns. But the pollution of water has gotten way too severe, and what pollutes it are not normal factors of human substances, but rather, what pollutes it are modern science’s industries which were brought over by aliens. So it can’t be purified to that degree anymore, and that’s why we say that after it has warped nothing can purify it.

Some people erect dams to block major rivers or minor ones in order to generate electricity and change and accommodate people’s electricity usage, and resolve energy problems. Actually, it’s as if they are cleaving the body of the river right in the middle, just as if it were done to a human being or another life, because rivers are lives, too—isn’t every object alive? If you sawed off a person at his waist, what would that do to him? Since a river is so large and since its time is different from that of human beings, you can’t see its changes right away, but it is dying, dying slowly. Its dying process is longer than that of humans, taking decades or even more than a hundred years. Don’t people push for changing and re-creating mountains and rivers, and changing and remaking nature? To change and remake nature is to damage nature, and to change and re-create mountains and rivers is to damage mountains and rivers. There’s an underlying order to everything that gods create. Gods view heaven and earth differently from how human beings do, and they’ve arranged the equilibrium of all things very well. Human beings should only utilize things in a friendly way and not damage them. Many of mankind’s natural disasters were caused by the fundamental damage science has done. In its effort to “develop” science mankind has excessively and wantonly harnessed energy and resources, and everything is being damaged.

You know, during the last century industry was flourishing in Europe and the U.S., especially the steel and chemical industries, and at that time the resultant pollution was quite severe. But the Europeans and Americans realized this in time and improved their protection of nature and ecology, and a few decades later the environment there really did improve. That’s why you can see that the water in U.S. rivers is so clear, and the lakes are no longer polluted. Human beings' waking up can really have this effect, but still it’s very hard to achieve the previous degree of purity. Haven’t today’s scientists also realized the harm science has done to mankind? But that’s merely what people can see and perceive with their eyes.

Did you know this? Science’s development in the microcosmic realm is even more terrifying. In its study of the more microcosmic particles, it makes the more microcosmic particles undergo fission, which causes the microcosmic particles to have continuous, chain-reaction fissions, which explode and split nonstop. The scientists have become aware of this and now they’re afraid of it. If the explosions continue on like that, it won’t take long before the entire earth disintegrates and is gone. At present none of the scientists who did those things are able to stop this type of explosion, and the fission and disintegration keeps on going. Those Chinese folks who knit sweaters know what this constant unraveling is like, with one link after another. And what science has brought upon mankind doesn’t stop at that—isn’t it terrifying?

Mankind thinks computers are great—they make things so easy! I’m not against computers, and I’m not against science. What I’m saying is that they’re not suitable for mankind. Other beings can use it within a certain limited scope, since it is a product of the cosmos. Nowadays some people are so dim-witted that without computers they don’t know how to do simple arithmetic, and without computers they don’t know how to think things over—they rely solely on what’s stored in computers. And when you reason with them they won’t listen—“Let me see what the computer says.” When you explain things to them they refuse to listen. Mankind is heavily dependent on computers now and can’t do without them. What’s more, the commands computers send out, whatever they say goes, and all the users have to obey the computers. Some people follow what computers say so closely. Aren’t computers controlling people? If computers are developed further, people’s dependency will grow greater, and computers’ commanding nature will get stronger. That’s when human beings will really be controlled by computers. If robots are made almost flawlessly and are just like the human body, and when robots are able to make robots, mankind will be destroyed, because they will continually make robots that will eliminate human beings. This sounds horrifying, and if it weren’t for Fa-rectification, which has curbed the unbridled development of man’s science, we would have already reached that point today. You can see how nowadays when a lot of government staff handle a person’s affairs, they don’t listen to him and just go by whatever the computer says. That’s how bad it’s gotten. Isn’t that horrifying? They go by computers—human beings have to go by computers and the information stored in computers, since they’re supposed to be accurate. But human beings are complex, dynamic, and ever-changing; their thinking changes too. And human beings are unstable and changing between being kind and wicked, good and bad. Also, the things in the human world aren’t stable, and human beings aren’t some static substance that can be summarized with a conclusion. These are the negative things science has brought upon mankind.

Of course, nowadays that’s what everybody is learning, so if you don’t teach it what else are you going to teach? So there’s nothing you can do about it. That’s what you have to do during this period of history, and it’s not considered wrong, since the rectification of all things is what’s to be done in the future.

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http://www.falundafa.org/book/eng/jw_99.htm

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Cykel styre.

Jag antar att du har läst, satt det in i ett större sammanhang, tänkt och begrundat.

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Något lite mer om alien, teknik, etc.

Från en specialintervju med Li Hongzhi den 10 maj 1999 veckoutgåvan Time Asia

TIME: Why does chaos reign now?

Li: Of course there is not just one reason. The biggest cause of society's change today is that people no longer believe in orthodox religion. They go to church, but they no longer believe in God. They feel free to do anything. The second reason is that since the beginning of this century, aliens have begun to invade the human mind and its ideology and culture.

TIME: Where do they come from?

Li: The aliens come from other planets. The names that I use for these planets are different. Some are from dimensions that human beings have not yet discovered. The key is how they have corrupted mankind. Everyone knows that from the beginning until now, there has never been a development of culture like today. Although it has been several thousand years, it has never been like now.

The aliens have introduced modern machinery like computers and airplanes. They started by teaching mankind about modern science, so people believe more and more science, and spiritually, they are controlled. Everyone thinks that scientists invent on their own when in fact their inspiration is manipulated by the aliens. In terms of culture and spirit, they already control man. Mankind cannot live without science.

The ultimate purpose is to replace humans. If cloning human beings succeeds, the aliens can officially replace humans. Why does a corpse lie dead, even though it is the same as a living body? The difference is the soul, which is the life of the body. If people reproduce a human person, the gods in heaven will not give its body a human soul. The aliens will take that opportunity to replace the human soul and by doing so they will enter earth and become earthlings.

When such people grow up, they will help replace humans with aliens. They will produce more and more clones. There will no longer be humans reproduced by humans. They will act like humans, but they will introduce legislation to stop human reproduction

Till Novax

Då allt du har skrivit handlar om religiös inställning till saker och ting så kan jag förstå varför du inte litar på vetenskapen då den går emot din religion.

Dess citat får det du klipp och klistart visar på det religiösa innehållet:

"And yet human beings were created by gods. Not only were they created by gods, the purpose of creating human beings was to allow lives that come from high levels to be saved when Fa-rectification takes place."

"rivers are lives, too—isn’t every object alive?"

"If people reproduce a human person, the gods in heaven will not give its body a human soul. The aliens will take that opportunity to replace the human soul and by doing so they will enter earth and become earthlings."


Sedan visar denna skribent att han saknar kunskaper.

"You know, the steel and iron we have today, most are composites of many different metals. When they are re-smelted you cannot again make the metal pure, and no technology can completely separate them anymore."

Detta påstående är en ren lögn för det är ingen skillnad om man tar metallen från malmer eller skrot då båda innehåller föroreningar man måste få bort från metallerna. Ju färre föroreningar desto lättare process att utvinna metaller men man kan inte komma bort ifrån föroreningar helt. Man skapar då en process som klara av det svåraste metallmaterialet som man kan ta in i smältverket och detta gör att många kan ta emot skrot också utan att slutresultatets kvalité blir lidande.

Man kan alltså ta emot malmer eller skrot och få samma kvalité på den producerade metallen. Att påstå något annat visar bara på kunskapsbrister.

Att man måste argumentera med kunskapsbrister visar också på det religiösa innehållet i texterna.

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Just came across this Morgellons etc today, then saw your post.

Tell me more, I want more info on this!

Re: Zink... waste of time really, Zinks are boot lickers to authourity, they never come with constructive initiatives and wait for straw man opportunities... oh and they ALWAYS side with the Govt, Intelligensia ie: They appear to love authority, possible Säpo, most likely lurking wannabe...

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Are you still here? Thought you would be happier at that Amazing Randy forum.

Perhaps you just plain old like being upset now hmmm honey?

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Everyone that writes things like that about other is afraid of them because if they were just like anyone you wouldn't care.

You are afraid of my arguments but I am not afraid of yours because I didn’t write any dumb things about you.

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Vad/om du kallar något för religiöst så go ahead. Du som många andra kanske inte förstår kärnan med att det en gång funnits genuina religioner. Jag har postat om det många gånger.

Du pratar om metallkvalité - jag kan inte mycket om det där. Förstår inte din mening här.

Man kan inte få ut rena metaller - är det inte så det avses i texten?

Se det i sitt sammanhang, hela texten. Det finns metaller - tar vi fram dem, gör legeringar eller inte - så blir de inte rena.

Det är som vi... vi är inte längre rent guld. Men det går att reversa det hela.

Lite till från intervjun i Time -99 med Li Hongzhi:

TIME: What are the aliens after?

Li: The aliens use many methods to keep people from freeing themselves from manipulation. They make earthlings have wars and conflicts, and develop weapons using science, which makes mankind more dependent on advanced science and technology. In this way, the aliens will be able to introduce their stuff and make the preparations for replacing human beings. The military industry leads other industries such as computers and electronics.

TIME: But what is the alien purpose?

Li: The human body is the most perfect in the universe. It is the most perfect form. The aliens want the human body.

TIME: What do aliens look like?

Li: Some look similar to human beings. U.S. technology has already detected some aliens. The difference between aliens can be quite enormous.

TIME: Can you describe it?

Li: You don't want to have that kind of thought in your mind.

TIME: Describe them anyway.

Li: One type looks like a human, but has a nose that is made of bone. Others look like ghosts. At first they thought that I was trying to help them. Now they now that I am sweeping them away.,

TIME: How do you see the future?

Li: Future human society is quite terrifying. If aliens are not to replace human beings, society will destroy itself on its own. Industry is creating invisible air pollution. The microparticles in the air harm human beings. The abnormality in the climate today is caused by that [pollution], and it cannot be remedied by humans alone. The drinking water is polluted. No matter how we try to purify it, it cannot return to its original purity. Modern science cannot determine the extent of the damage. The food we eat is the product of fertilized soil. The meat we eat is affected. I can foresee a future when human limbs become deformed, the body's joints won't move and internal organs will become dysfunctional. Modern science hasn't realized this yet.

At the beginning you asked why I did such things. I only tell practitioners, but not the public because they cannot comprehend it. I am trying to save those people who can return to a high level and to a high moral level. Modern science does not understand this, so governments can do nothing. The only person in the entire world who knows this is myself alone.

I am not against the public knowing, but I am teaching practitioners. Even though the public knows, it cannot do anything about it. People can't free themselves from science and from their concepts. I am not against science. I am only telling mankind the truth. I drive a car. I also live in the environment. Don't believe that I am against science. But I know that modern science is destroying mankind. Aliens have already constructed a layer of cells in human beings. The development of computers dictates this layer of body cells to control human culture and spirituality and in the end to replace human beings.

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Bra att du inser att de är religion du håller på med. Men varför krockar den med vetenskapen?

När de gäller metaller så är de samma renhet från metall som tagits fram från slig som är malt och koncentrat metallförening som man tagit fram efter gruvbrytning eller man utvinner metaller ur återvunnet metallskrot.

Då man vet att metallfyndigheterna kommer att ta slut och att det dessutom är betydligt högre metallinnehåll i metallskrot så har många smältverk tagit fram metoder för att återvinna skrot och ändå få samma metallrenhet som att materialet togs från gruvbrytning.

Då den du citerade har helt fel om att man inte kan återvinna den metall som t.ex. finns i din dator och få den lika ren som att man tar materialet från gruvor.

Varför jag vet detta och inte bara påstår är att jag har jobbat på ett smältverk som tar in mer skrot än slig från gruvor och det blir ingen skillnad i slutresultatet.

Det är inte otroligt att när din dator skrotas är det detta smältverk som återvinner metallerna i den.

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Jag har sagt till dig flera gånger att jag inte håller på med någon religion. Jag tillber tex ingen.

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Man får inte ut de rena metallerna vid brytning eller återvinning.

Tips för läsning om man har tid över... för zzz:s och andra:

I Have Found the True Science
http://www.pureinsight.org/pi/index.php?news=356

Modern Civilization, Modern People and Modern Diseases
http://www.pureinsight.org/pi/index.php?news=1288

Alla dom här fyrkanterna ...............hallo

quotsen

Hur många fyrkanter blir det ................

Kan väl bli en mandelbrot t slutet då.......................

Ur kaos kommer ordning

Eller hur Micro

När det är viktiga saker, såsom överlevnad etc, och det pickas mot ens saker som inte är ens egna... (sanna jag) utan saker i ryggsäcken/karma - då ser den till att det pratas om yta och oväsentligheter - allmänt sett.

Jag gav två länkar ovan. Tystnaden breder ut sig.

Låt inte "det" lura er.

Har någon läst artiklarna?

"In short, it is time for mankind to return to its true nature and to become attuned with its environment. However, if society continues to disregard its true nature, human survival is at risk. The way of returning to one's true nature will become narrower and narrower."